Poor Bernard is miffed because I exposed his fuzzy thinking about the sacred calendar, his willful confusion over the holy issue, when the Bible makes it clear they're part of the oracles of God that God has entrusted to the Jews until the return of the King of the Jews, Shiloh. He must not be used to biblical cross examination of his false ideas. This same Jew-hatred and jealousy he sadly exhibits, with its diversionary tactics and strawmen arguments, is all whitewashed rebellion against the Word and Will of God and led to the demise of the early Church of God's strong Jewish/biblical foundation, when such anti-Semites did all they could to distance themselves from the Jews/Bible and increasingly turned to their own idolatrous ideas and traditions (fuzzy one and all).
Fuzzy thinking Christians
New ideas opposing "law" sprang up as early as 160-320 A.D. Marcion, 2nd century, adopted Matthew 5:17 as key theme to ending God's law and taught that the grace of God superseded it, rejecting the Old Testament.
Several Church Councils from 341 A.D. to 626 A.D. prohibited Christians from celebrating the Sabbath, festivals, and even eating with the Jews. It seemed that the greatest concern with Judaism on the part of Christians leaders was the attraction that it held for Christians. . . . These rules do not come out of bad relations between Jews and Christians (what would now be called, erroneously, antisemitism), but rather were enacted because relations were good and the authorities wanted to separate the two peoples. God has always had a remnant who has followed the Torah.
John Chrysostom, 344-407 A.D., preached: "The Jews ... are worse than wild beasts ... lower than the vilest animals. Debauchery and drunkenness had brought them to the level of the lusty goat and the pig. They know only ... to satisfy their stomachs, to get drunk, to kill and beat each other up ... I hate the Jews ... I hate the Synagogue ... it is the duty of all Christians to hate the Jews.
Origen, 185-254 A.D., was most responsible for changing the way the Church interpreted prophecy, creating the atmosphere in which Christian anti-semitism took root and spread. He developed a new teaching on "legalism" setting the stage throughout history for the term "legalism" becoming synonymous with Judaism and both being condemned. (Legalism is not the following of the Old Testament Torah as is currently defined by some present-day teachings. Webster's Dictionary defines legalism as "the doctrine of salvation by good works."
Christian Hatred and Persecution of the Jews
1What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2Much in every way! First of all, they have been entrusted with the very words of God.
3What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God's faithfulness? 4Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."
25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. 27And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins."
28As far as the [spiritual] gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as [ethnic] election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.
It's sad to see Bernard (or is it Korah?) call God a liar, in essence, and hatefull spew against the Jews and reject the authority of Christ who publicly acknowledged the authority of the Pharisees.
1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.
The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Has the King of the Jews returned to Jerusalem yet? Has he gathered the twelve tribes of Israel to the Promised Land of Israel? No, but He will and note He liberates Jerusalem and Judah first. How that must gall some who have hang-ups about Judah, even though it is written:
God is with the Jews!
Zechariah 8:23"Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'In those days ten men [representatives of the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel?] from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.""
Jews to Receive Jesus as Israel's King!
Bernard, it's horribly sad you've refused to notice that it's written in the Book what I testify about, the future of God's Church is in JERUSALEM. Don't you know that's where the Two Witnesses will be and Yahshua will return? Will you oppose His return to Jerusalem and the Jews first because of the hateful spirit that has moved you against our Jewish brethren? Hopefully not.
The Great Mideast Commission: Reaching the Cities of Judah
So there is a physical preparing, as well as a spiritual, in preparing the way for Messiah's Coming! Further, God says we are to SHOUT, with amplified power, to the CITIES OF JUDAH the glad message that the Messiah is soon coming" - Autobiography of Herbert W Armstrong, Volume II, pages 469-470
Israel and Judah Must Get House in Order Before King Messiah Arrives
For Zion's sake,
From: bernard b carman
To: firstname.lastname@example.orgSubject: [forwardfuture] Fuzzy "Jew" Worship ALERT!Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:50:25 -0400
• FUZZY thinking "Jews" still believe they are somehow superior to the gentiles in Christ -- boy are they wrong!
• the "Jews" have not been faithful to Christ Messiah -- they rejected Him and the veil was torn in two, therefore, Christ is our only intercessor to the Father.
• 1Jo 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
• the "Jews" have no authority whatsoever -- Christ Messiah YHWH has ALL authority!
• everyone in Christ has the authority to be ministers of Christ.
• God's people are to follow Christ, not any man or manmade religion.
• Genesis 49:10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes.
WAKE UP -- Shiloh came in the flesh and Judah rejected Him!!!
note to owner/moderator of ForwardFuture:
what is the purpose of this group again? how is "Jew"/Judaism worship good for the future of the Church of Christ?
i thought this was a Christian group... is this no longer the case? it seems obvious that since David Ben-Airel arrived here, the group has gone into a very different direction, promoting the worship of a group of people and their manmade religion called "Judaism" who rejected Christ Messiah YHWH and is there for of the spirit of antichrist.
of course, we are all freed in Christ to have different personal understandings of scripture as we are babes growing in Christ, but this is getting a little ridiculous, no?
what posts from David Ben-Airel have contributed in the least toward the future of the Church of God? every time anyone posts something worthy of reading -- like my recent article, God's "Fuzzy" Clock, he comes back with a bunch of posts, twisting scriptures to advance his own agenda of "Jew"/Judaism worship.
if this is the new direction of the Forward Future forum, please confirm this so i can simply leave.
bernard baruch carman