God is with the Jews!
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concerning the love affair of Christians with the modern-day state of Israel
It's clear you fail to recognize that
Christian Zionist love is for the Word of God that we see wonderfully fulfilled in the modern state of Israel.
Your Jew hatred blinds you to God's faithfulness, power and grace in restoring Judah to the Promised Land in preparation for their repentance and the return of the King of the Jews.
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... consider that Israel has hundreds of nukes and is ready to use them if she is threatened ...
Oh, you mean like the US and Britain and France, to name a few?
Why the selective concern? Objective observers note how irrational Jew haters prove themselves to be.
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Just how many of your righteous Jew friends believe in Jesus?
Only a chosen few, just like the Bible foretold. Same goes for our
professing Christian nations of Gentilized Israelites who worship a counterfeit Christ and have fallen for another gospel.
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Herbert Armstrong was a godly man but he never advocated subservience to the modern state of Israel like you are implying.
Your inferiority complex is glaring, as I've never taught any "subservience" to our Jewish brethren but call for restoration and reconciliation between British-Israelites and Jews, just like the Bible does.
Interesting, nevertheless, is biblical prophecies do reveal that ultimately
all will acknowledge God is with the Jews (who will have embraced Yeshua by that time) and with their biblical Sabbath and festivals - unlike the baptized paganism of counterfeit Christianity that composes the Babylonian Mystery religion.
Genesis 49:8"Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise; Your hand shall be on the neck of your enemies; Your father's children shall bow down before you.
It looks like our future "subservience" to our Jewish brethren isn't so bad, according to the Scriptures, does it?
Zechariah 8:23"Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'In those days ten men [representatives of the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel?] from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.""
So the tribes of Israel will acknowledge Judah as a leader among us, and other nations will acknowledge collective Israel and Judah, all 12 Tribes of Israel, as the Servant Nation of God or be punished and/or destroyed.
See - I represent our Great Creator God, the God of the Bible, the God of Israel and speak His plain truth:
Isaiah 6010 "The sons of foreigners shall build up your walls,
And their kings shall minister to you;
For in My wrath I struck you,
But in My favor I have had mercy on you.
11 Therefore your gates shall be open continually;
They shall not be shut day or night,
That men may bring to you the wealth of the Gentiles,
And their kings in procession.
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For the nation and kingdom which will not serve you shall perish,
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you are of the John Hagee type.
No, he's a Protestant who I've read thinks the Jews can be saved without acknowledging Yeshua. I don't believe that nonsense. At least he knows this much: it's the Promised Land of ISRAEL - not some accursed "Palestine!"
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And stop claiming that anyone who criticizes Israel is a "Jew Hater"
I've never claimed that anyone who criticizes Israel is a Jew hater, as I criticize Israel and Judah often but I offer
constructive criticism - unlike you with your selective and irrational attitudes and insane jealousy about and against the Jews.
John 837
I know that you are [physical] descendants of Abraham [contrary to those who wickedly teach otherwise]; yet you look for an opportunity to kill me, because there is no place in you for my word. 38I declare what I have seen in the Father's presence; as for you, you should do what you have heard from the Father.'
39 They answered him, 'Abraham is our father.' Jesus said to them, 'If you were Abraham’s children [spiritually, not just physically], you would be doing what Abraham did, 40but now you are trying to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41You are indeed doing what your father does.' They said to him, 'We are not illegitimate children; we have one father, God himself.' 42Jesus said to them, 'If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now I am here. I did not come on my own, but he sent me. 43Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot accept my word. 44You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. 46Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? 47Whoever is from God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear them is that you are not from God.'
Yes, that's what Jesus said to the religious leaders of His day, and He would say the same and more to professing Christian leaders today! (1 John 2:4).
Do You Prefer TRADITION Over Truth?Is the Plain Truth Too Strong?You fail, as many are guilty of who are irrational Jew haters, of learning to rightly divide the Word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Did Jesus Call Jews the Children of the Devil?Jesus acknowledged that Abraham is the father of the Jews physically, but not always spiritually (John 8:37, 39, 42, 44). The same can be said and is true about all
Twelve Tribes of Israel. In fact, the commission of the
Two Witnesses - in the spirit of Elijah - is to restore our relationship with our Fathers (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) and thereby through their true religion reconcile us to our Heavenly Father (Malachi 4:6; Isa. 49:5-6).
Romans 1125
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
"The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins."
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Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 evn so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!
34 "For who has known the mind of the LORD?
Or who has become His counselor?"
35 "Or who has first given to Him
And it shall be repaid to him?"
36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.
Instead of always downing our Jewish brethren, you ought to pray and do what you can to see that the true gospel of the Kingdom, the true Yeshua, is presented to them to help clear up the confusion counterfeit Christianity has shamefully spread among them.
The Great Mideast Commission: Reaching the Cities of JudahIsrael and Judah Must Get House in Order Before King Messiah Arrives
www.davidbenariel.org
Just received this from an astute Israeli friend re: Blame Jews for Jerusalem Massacre
You are precisely on target David.
The so called Oslo/Annapolis/Sharm “road maps” of sorts and a variety other named of occasion “peace process” is not something one has to suspend but something we must abrogate. That whole cauldron is a sham.
A war has been declared against the Jewish Nation by the enemies, internal and external and in return we must ELECT a system and people that will adopt a “war process” until the enemies are utterly defeated.
One makes peace WITH DEFEATED ENEMIES, not with ENEMIES attacking our very lives to destroy us.
SHmuel
(Shmuel HaLevi is a Jew, Father, Grandfather, Husband, Teacher, “Gaucho”, radio aficionado and Senior Engineer for the U.S. Department of Defense Avionic Programs who was worked on combat aircraft from the F-16 to the B-2 and from the F-15 to the F-117 to the A.V.-8 and A.H.-64, C-17, C.O.H.-58, C-130 and A.T.F. A (seldom used) Consultant for the Israeli Ministry of Defense, Mr. HaLevi is a U.S. D.o.D. Certified Trainer and Graduation Officer for the Israeli Ministry of Education, writer for the University of Tel Aviv Technology Center, Quality Assurance Engineer and patents holder. Presently, Mr. HaLevi serves as the Laboratory equipment technologist supporting key foreign equipment manufacturers. Mr. HaLevi is a veteran Likud Central committee member and founding member of Hashkem Yisrael).
Comment by David BenAriel — March 8, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
I agree with every word of S. Halevi: My problem is more with you messianincs than with Kahane. Kahane was not a friend to you messianics and viewed you all as a Paganistic threat to the whole Jewish People. Yes his message was to the Jews and he advocated using the messianic Christians as a force in support of a weakend Jewish people . But thats’ it. You want to use us we are willing to use you! But to date except foe a myriad of bloggers who for the most part are mlitant using the blood of Jews to fight their battle in the run up to GOG and MAGOG I don’t see you guys taking on the Muslims in any arena in the World. Why don’t I see a foreign legion of Christian Soldiers volunteering to fight alongside Jews in the war against the evil Islamics. Why don’t I see a couple of million letters and emails going out to evry menmber of congress against 2 state solution, roadmap, anapolis, state Dept.
giving advanced weapons to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Gulf States etc. Is the arming of Israels enemies with your tax dollars in Your christinian messianic plans for the Jews? How are you all going to kill the Jews in the end times when we don’t convert and accept your god on a stick? Thats what you all believe is it not?
Comment by yamit82 — March 9, 2008 @ 6:54 am
FYI yamit82, I am not a “Messianic” and I don’t appreciate your offensive stereotypes. I am a Christian Zionist who believes the plain truth of the Bible, as taught by Herbert W. Armstrong, and am very aware of what Kahane thought about Christianity (and share some of his condemnations against it) but chose to focus on what Torah I can learn from him and even made honorable mention of him in my book, Beyond Babylon: Europe’s Rise and Fall.
Comment by David BenAriel — March 9, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Furthermore yamit82, instead of questioning where are Christian supporters of Israel and such, Kahane would question WHERE ARE THE JEWS? Why do Jews remain in a self-imposed exile, far away from the Land of Israel, failing to follow Judaism to the Jewish Homeland where they could hasten the redemption - something believed by Jews and Christians.
And Kahane would condemn the continual election of treacherous people and parties to the Knesset and blast the hypocrisy of the religious Jews who hasten Israel’s demise and woefully neglect the Temple Mount. It’s not only Christians who believe in the “end of days,” and it’s not only Christians who believe whoever doesn’t ultimately accept the King Messiah and His Servant Nation Israel must be destroyed.
Comment by David BenAriel — March 9, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
David BenAriel —Sorry to upset, I have enough trouble keeping up with the Jews not less The hundreds or thousands of JC denominations sects,cults and all of their subs.
?I asked a question above which you have not answered. Your book aside for the moment what is your belief that that will happen to the Jews in end times? and what is your belief can save the Jews from their horrible fate?
Is your being Christian Zionist your way of quickening the arrival of those end days and bringing them nearer?
Comment by yamit82 — March 9, 2008 @ 2:23 pm
Shalom yamit82, I gladly answer your question in Christian Zionists, Jews, and Israel but believe we should stay focused on the purpose of this thread and strive to agree where we can find common holy ground.
Comment by David BenAriel — March 9, 2008 @ 2:30 pm